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Tech News: 2019-27

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The development of Wikidata Bridge has started. The goal is to allow Wikidata edits from Wikipedia. [1]

Problems

• Sometimes pages load slowly for users routed to the Amsterdam data center. Investigation is in progress. [2]
• Wikidata query service was overloaded between 11:50 UTC until 13:15 UTC on June 24. It has been fixed. [3]

Changes later this week

• You will be able to read but not to edit all wikis for a short amount of time, on 3 July at 06:00 (UTC). This is to move a database. [4]
• There is no deployment of a new version of MediaWiki on the wikis this week (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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2 iulie 2019 00:23 (EEST)

Listă de marine militare

Salut Andrei! Te rog să te uiți la Listă de marine militare, unde la Statele Unite sunt ceva probleme cu un modul, așa încât nu apare steagul. --Mihai Andrei (discuție) 2 iulie 2019 17:12 (EEST)

Pagina nu folosește module. Din câte văd, folosește formatul {{Navy}}, care mi se pare că se bazează pe formatele de date din familia Country data, ca și {{Flag}}. —Andrei^discuție 2 iulie 2019 18:15 (EEST)

Dacă revin la versiunea anterioară [5], atunci la Statele Unite dispare legătura internă. --Mihai Andrei (discuție) 2 iulie 2019 18:22 (EEST)

Da, din cauza lui {{Navy}}. Ăla e de fapt un format pentru engleză și n-a fost adaptat deloc când a fost adus (nici nu știu dacă se poate). În toată pagina denumirile și legăturile sunt în engleză, indiferent dacă limba oficială este sau nu engleza. Aș recomanda renunțarea completă la el în acea pagină. Puteți folosi {{flag-wd}}, căruia i se dă ca parametru itemul de wikidata al oricărei marine militare, și va da numele respectivei marine, cu steagul ei, și link dacă avem articol. —Andrei^discuție 2 iulie 2019 18:33 (EEST)

Am pus acolo un steag, dar de fapt acesta ar fi cel dorit: File:Naval_jack_of_the_United_States.svg. --Mihai Andrei (discuție) 2 iulie 2019 18:46 (EEST)

Patrulare + poză commons

Salut, de ceva vreme nu mai merge marcarea modif. drept patrulate din lista de schimbări recente prin click pe semnul de exclamare. Se poate drege ușor sau e o problemă mai profundă?

În caz că nu mai ai o copie proprie sau dorești să o salvezi la ro.wiki, am propus spre ștergere la commons o poză făcută de tine unei statui a lui Brâncoveanu; mă uitasem pe o categorie și am selectat ce nu e FOP-permisibil și unde subiectul fotografiei nu are valoare intrinsecă prea mare.--Mihai (discuție) 3 iulie 2019 02:48 (EEST)

Mie îmi merge, ai sigur activat "one-click patrol" din lista de gadgeturi?--Strainu (دسستي‎)  3 iulie 2019 14:34 (EEST)

@Strainu: Da, opțiunea este selectată. --Mihai (discuție) 4 iulie 2019 16:36 (EEST)

Lăutarii din Clejani

Salut. Poți te rog să reevaluezi ștergerea rapidă a acestei pagini? Uitându-mă în istoric mi se pare că e mai degrabă o redenumire făcută greșit, dar poate mă înșel...--Strainu (دسستي‎)  3 iulie 2019 14:37 (EEST)

Numele...

Buna seara, astăzi s-a dat conform comitetului executiv al FRF decizia ca echipa din liga 1 CS U Craiova , sa se numească Universitatea Craiova , va purta aceasta denumire..inclusiv la UEFA, ai va juca sub acest nume. Întrebarea mea este...și revin din nou la ea...putem schimba numele paginii?...numele actual al pagini este vechi, nu are vreo legătură cu actuala echipă și cu anul 2019.. inca lucrurile nu sunt clare în privința palmaresului dar numele..este clar ca aceasta echipă CS U Craiova este singura echipa care are dreptul la numele de *Universitatea Craiova*. Astfel schimbând numele paginii..o sa fi totul la actualitate și la fel de imparțiali. Mulțumesc anticipat.. https://m.digisport.ro/fotbal/liga-1/universitatea-craiova-este-numele-sub-care-oltenii-vor-participa-in-toate-competitiile-685399 Nickoala27 (discuție) 3 iulie 2019 23:24 (EEST)

După ce și sursele secundare vor începe să îi spună „Universitatea”, da. —Andrei^discuție 4 iulie 2019 14:47 (EEST)

Pai și cat mai așteptam după acele *surse de încredere*...până la urmă nu știu ce înseamnă pentru matale surse de încredere.. Nickoala27 (discuție) 5 iulie 2019 14:48 (EEST)

Sau "surse secundare"? Nickoala27 (discuție) 5 iulie 2019 14:49 (EEST)

Tech News: 2019-28

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• For event organizers, if you request a temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation, this will now also raise the edit rate limit for those new accounts at the event, which will prevent another bottleneck. [6]
• Administrators at all Wiktionary, Wikivoyage, and Wikisource wikis are now able to use the new partial blocks feature. [7]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 July. It will be on all wikis from 11 July (calendar).
• The design of MediaWiki's software windows will change for desktop users. Layout will be simpler, buttons will be bolder and clearer, and close buttons will be just icons. This is like the mobile design. This will affect ContentTranslation, VisualEditor, TemplateWizard, and other tools. [8]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch. [9]
• There will be a change in the name format of new Wikidata RDF dumps starting on 15 July. [10]

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8 iulie 2019 23:13 (EEST)

Buna ziua

Sunteti administrator? Yellow-sulphur-rose (discuție) 9 iulie 2019 18:02 (EEST)

Da. —Andrei^discuție 9 iulie 2019 18:02 (EEST)

Tech News: 2019-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The mobile web will get more advanced editing tools. Seven more Wikipedias can use them now. This works for Arabic, Indonesian, Italian, Persian, Japanese, Spanish and Thai Wikipedia. You can try the tools on the mobile web and give feedback. [11]

Changes later this week

• The abuse filter system user will soon do maintenance edits on broken abuse filters. This user is called Filtru abuz and has administrator rights. This is meant to fix technical problems. It will not do any other changes. You can read more.
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 July. It will be on all wikis from 18 July (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add image captions to images on Commons. It will only invite users who have added a number of edits in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback. [12]

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15 iulie 2019 18:30 (EEST)

Cereri de deblocare

Utilizatorul NonBad a cerut deblocarea.

Notă: Ați primit acest mesaj automat deoarece sunteți înscris(ă) pe lista de la pagina Utilizator:Andrebot/Abonați newsletter sysop. Pentru a vă dezabona, ștergeți-vă numele din acea listă.Puteți șterge acest mesaj după rezolvarea cererilor. Dacă o faceți înainte de rezolvarea cererilor, veți primi notificarea din nou până când cererea va fi rezolvată. –Andrebot (discuție) 16 iulie 2019 10:41 (EEST)

Pot sterge etichetele Dumneavoastra?

Buna seara D-le Andrei Stroe, m-ati atentionat cu privire la pagina Boovie si pe buna dreptate. Va rog sa imi spuneti daca pot sterge etichetele acum, daca ma ajutati cu sugestii, sfaturi? Va multumesc mult, TheOnlyOneRo

Tudor Georgescu

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Communities interested by easing newcomers' first steps can now benefit from the Growth team experiments on their wikis. Check the conditions and the request process.
• The Coolest Tool Award 2019 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools by July 29. The awarded tools will be presented at Wikimania. [13]

Problems

• The release of the last version of MediaWiki (1.34.0-wmf.14) has been blocked for groups 1 and 2. [14]

Changes later this week

• Phabricator database will be moved to a different server. Writes will be blocked on Thursday 25 July, between 05:30 and 06:00 AM UTC. Reads will remain unaffected. [15]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 July. It will be on all wikis from 25 July (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Some items in the visual editor will change later this week. This will make it easier to edit links, citations, and templates on both desktop and mobile. [16][17]
• With advanced search turned on you will be able to choose the sorting order of the search results when you do a search. [18][19]
• Users who edit from IP addresses whitelisted on a request for temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation will bypass CAPTCHAs. This will happen in August. If you think this should not happen for some reason, please let us know.
• The variable user_wpzero will be removed from AbuseFilter. A list of filters needing a fix is provided.

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22 iulie 2019 16:08 (EEST)

Mesaj privat

Salut Andrei. N-am mai intrat de mult pe wp.ro. Nu demult am dat de un material denigrator la adresa wp.ro pe o pagina de socializare cu referire la un pretins admin al wp.ro, caruia i se da numele in clar, identitatea si domiciliul. As vrea sa-ti trimit linkul pentru a verifica daca se face referire la o persoana reala sau este doar un fake. Prin urmare da-mi te rog o adresa de mail activ (temporar) ca sa-ti trimit linkul. Merci si toate cele bune Zsolt (discuție) 29 iulie 2019 16:53 (EEST)

@Solt: am activat mailul. Îmi poți trimite mesaj cu click pe „Trimiteți un mesaj acestui utilizator” la „Trusa de unelte” în stânga acestei pagini. —Andrei^discuție 29 iulie 2019 16:55 (EEST)

Tech News: 2019-31

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch. [20]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 August (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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30 iulie 2019 00:42 (EEST)

How's ORES working out for you?

Hi Andrei_Stroe, I'm working with User:EpochFail (@halfak on irc) on a research study to look into how mw:ORES is working out on wikis where it has been enabled. I was hoping to talk a little about what the kind of work you do on Romanian Wikipedia and about how the ORES edit filters and classifiers have been working out. Do you use any tools other than Special:RecentChanges or Special:Watchlist that take advantage of ORES? Do you know of any other tools that are used to patrol that do not use ORES? I'm also interested in any other observations you may have about how the ORES scores are working out. Thank you! Groceryheist (discuție) 13 iunie 2019 01:25 (EEST)

Hi Groceryheist and thanks for taking the time to request feedback. Unfortunately I may not be the best person to give you feedback. Here is why: ORES took some training data generation which implied that some of us had to have a look at a few hundred edits and label them on a couple of scales. When hearing of ORES everyone was interested in having an intelligent assistant, but when it came down to generate training data, very few were willing to take the time and analyze the edits. Because things were dragging along, I found the time and completed the task by myself, which means that about 80% of the training data was generated by me. As you know or can probably imagine, in a neural network this is a recipe for overfitting. This means ORES is very much evaluating contributions the way I am. This means I will be satisfied with how it behaves, but I'm not sure the other patrollers have an actually properly trained AI tool to help them. I think some additional training of the neural network might be in order, but if this happens, then I will probably stand back and not go ahead of everybody when generating the data; which means the data might take a long time to collect. —Andrei^discuție 20 iunie 2019 09:50 (EEST)

Hi Andrei_Stroe, thanks so much for getting back to me with this thoughtful response. I think it's really interesting and insightful that you think that the model might be over-fit to your own personal judgements. Do you have any other thoughts about that? It seems like training an algorithm based on your personal tastes could be a good way to have a broader influence on the encyclopedia.

It makes sense that this suggests that you can't represent the typical Romanian Wikipedian. It sounds like I should talk to someone else to find out if it's working for people who weren't involved in training the algorithm. Do you know anyone else who might be interested in talking to me?

By the way, it turns out that for Romanian Wikipedia we are using GradientBoosting models, not neural networks. You can keep track of updates to the model here: (link to github).

Groceryheist (discuție) 29 iunie 2019 00:15 (EEST)

@Groceryheist: Sorry I missed your last message, it was during one of my short vacations. I don't know much about GradientBoosting methods, but from what I read they seem to be at least as susceptible to overfitting as neural networks are. Thanks for the link, I'll bookmark it.

If you're looking to talk to someone about how this works, the best place to look is the patrollers list. —Andrei^discuție 30 iulie 2019 10:49 (EEST)